Response to Cynthia and Sheena

Sally Edsall (SEDSALL@nswtf.org.au)
Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:23:56 GMT+10


I couldn't agree more with Cynthia's and Sheena's comments about the 
need for better advice and skills on the part of OB nurses. 

I also recognised the comments made by a previous poster re "not 
upsetting" prospective parents in ante natal classes.

I developed "fulminating pre-eclampsia" in my 29th week, and 
fortunately it stopped short of the full H.E.L.L.P syndrome, but it 
was very touch and go whether I was going to suffer eclamptic 
fitting. Of course, the only cure is delivery, as Cynthia said.

What does one learn about such possibilities during the ante natal 
experience? In my experience, NOTHING. Classes are conducted around 
the assumption of the perfect pregnancy. I attended "earlybird 
classes" which aimed to prepare you for the 2nd and 3rd trimesters. I 
never got to the birth classes - the first one was held the night  
Ben was born!

One woman in the class was regarded as a bit of an oddity because she 
had the most terrible morning sickness! We were asked at one stage if 
we "felt positive about the pregnancy and our ability to go full 
term". Well, of course we did! And any other thinking would have been 
discouraged!   Really, who goes into their first 
pregnancy EXPECTING something to go wrong?

The fact is that 10% of first pregnancies result in some degree of 
pre-eclampsia, to name only one complication, and, as we know, there 
are many. This makes me believe that it is negligent of the health 
professionals with whom we come into contact during pregnancy, most 
especially obstetricians, to not fully inform women of what to be 
attentive to. 

It wasn't til after the event that I realised the real reason I was 
taking that urine specimen in every month, and why my blood pressure 
was being monitored (fat lot of good it did anyway!).

I hold the authors of books on pregnancy responsible too. The only 
clue I had that something was amiss was due to one paragraph in 
Sheila Kitzinger's "bible" on pregnancy and childbirth. It said not 
to ignore upper abdominal pain, or gastric like illness, nausea, 
vomiting etc in "late 
pregnancy". Now I ask you - is 29 weeks "late pregnancy"???? 
Fortunately I decided it did mean me and sought help.

Every other symptom experienced in pre-eclampsia can occur in an 
otherwise normal pregnancy : swollen feet and ankles, what appears 
to be indigestion (in fact dangerous epigastric pain fromm the 
swollen liver - I was downing Gaviscon thinking it was indigestion), 
headaches,nausea, and the list goes on. It's the high blood pressure and 
protein in the urine that's a good indicator, but you don't FEEL high 
blood pressure. 
Likewise, sitting at home you don't know about the protein. It's the 
combination of all this that counts. When I looked at my swollen 
feet and legs, I thought of my friend who had put on 30 kg in her 
pregnancy, and was unrecognisable to friends! Then there was another 
acquaintance who had "morning" sickness throughout. 
So like Cynthia, you shut up and put up with it, not wanting to 
"bother the doctor" between visits.

Maybe if we had a system of informed and well-educated nurse-midwives 
and/or GPs in our communitites with whom we felt a close 
relationship, rather than falling for the trap of  expensive, 
specialist obstetricians whose secretaries spend more time extracting 
money from you than the doctors do in actual consultation, we'd be better 
off.

I NOW know about the really terrific services available to me in 
Sydney should I enter a second pregnancy. All this is available for 
free as an outpatient at public hospitals. Didn't help the first time 
round though. 

I feel that in this day and age, women don't need to be protected 
from the sort of knowledge that allows them to take responsibility 
for the informed management of their own, and their foetuses' health. 
Health professionals should not be allowed to assert that we 
shouldn't worry our vacuaous, pregnant heads about it, and we should 
demand to be fully informed!

That's my soapbox pronouncement for today. Great to have this forum 
available to help work through our issues. I'm even happy to acede to 
the American term "preemie", though I will admit I've had a couple of 
posts bounce back undeliverable when my fingers have forced me to 
type the more familiar "Premmy" !!!

Sally Edsall

> With my first pregnancy I was told repeatedly by nurses in my OB's office
> that the upper-gastric pain I was experiencing was either heartburn, ribs
> spreading or the baby's foot hooked in a rib.  I let the pain go on for a
> week and the cause turned out to be a greatly enlarged liver (H.E.L.L.P.
> Syndrome).  Because it was my first pregnancy I didn't know how much
> discomfort to expect and I didn't want to be a whiner so I put up with the
> pain until I just couldn't stand it any more.  In fact I came close to death
> and obviously Trevor's well being was compromised too.

> So, my answer to you, Sheena, is a resounding YES!!!  I think that better
> advice, more education and better listening skills on the part of OB nurses
> could help to prevent early delivery or at least help to catch pregnancy
> diseases and complications in earlier stages of development.      
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